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	<title>Comments on: Education Gets No Respect From Rubel</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, sorry I didn&#039;t respond to this earlier.

As your post asks, &quot;While his method is very questionnable, why does (or did) he have to open up the New PR Wiki to everyone? Who says he has to?&quot;

Well, no one says he &#039;has to&#039; open his project up.  It was, as you called it &quot;questionnable.&quot;  &quot;It&quot; being his strategy and presumptive suggestion that he &#039;knew&#039; who could do the job.

So, not to rehash old nonsense, let us just notice that if you go to the wiki now, the project has already withered like a promising late bloom greeted by cold winter winds.  The last contribution was &quot;December 09&quot; and before that it was &quot;Novembere 30&quot;.

And, the posts are mostly self-serving &quot;aren&#039;t we great, look what we do/did&quot; and are without any depth.  The depth I think everyone wants is methodology and specific practices / applications so that we can - indeed - move forward.  The reality is - there aren&#039;t that many public examples of small, medium and/or big firm success stories.  Or, if they do exists - the firms likely consider that proprietary and don&#039;t want to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, sorry I didn&#8217;t respond to this earlier.</p>
<p>As your post asks, &#8220;While his method is very questionnable, why does (or did) he have to open up the New PR Wiki to everyone? Who says he has to?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, no one says he &#8216;has to&#8217; open his project up.  It was, as you called it &#8220;questionnable.&#8221;  &#8220;It&#8221; being his strategy and presumptive suggestion that he &#8216;knew&#8217; who could do the job.</p>
<p>So, not to rehash old nonsense, let us just notice that if you go to the wiki now, the project has already withered like a promising late bloom greeted by cold winter winds.  The last contribution was &#8220;December 09&#8243; and before that it was &#8220;Novembere 30&#8243;.</p>
<p>And, the posts are mostly self-serving &#8220;aren&#8217;t we great, look what we do/did&#8221; and are without any depth.  The depth I think everyone wants is methodology and specific practices / applications so that we can &#8211; indeed &#8211; move forward.  The reality is &#8211; there aren&#8217;t that many public examples of small, medium and/or big firm success stories.  Or, if they do exists &#8211; the firms likely consider that proprietary and don&#8217;t want to share.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Driehorst</title>
		<link>http://www.auburnmedia.com/wordpress/2005/11/29/education-gets-no-respect-from-rubel/comment-page-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Driehorst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 18:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does seem that Rubel&#039;s good intentions were blasted by all sides. What about non-profit PR people? What about those who work for associations? 

I believe his intentions and goals are good, but went about it the wrong way. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mikespoints.com/archives/001170.html&quot;&gt;I posted my thoughts at my blog&lt;/a&gt; the other day. (Sorry, it&#039;s a post that turned into a book.)

While the effort can try to be all inclusive, it is not possible. It is good that Rubel is open to revisions. Let&#039;s just hope that this bears some positive fruit.
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does seem that Rubel&#8217;s good intentions were blasted by all sides. What about non-profit PR people? What about those who work for associations? </p>
<p>I believe his intentions and goals are good, but went about it the wrong way. <a href="http://www.mikespoints.com/archives/001170.html">I posted my thoughts at my blog</a> the other day. (Sorry, it&#8217;s a post that turned into a book.)</p>
<p>While the effort can try to be all inclusive, it is not possible. It is good that Rubel is open to revisions. Let&#8217;s just hope that this bears some positive fruit.<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Education is overrated anyway, right?&quot;

You are a very, very bad man.  :)

Well, it isn&#039;t as if I wanted to participate anyway.  But, I would like for more PR bloggers to reach out to many other PR educators around the world.  Think of how it will aid not just the students - but the future employers, too.

I do appreciate those that do reach out to the students.  You know that, don&#039;t you?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Education is overrated anyway, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>You are a very, very bad man.  <img src='http://www.auburnmedia.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Well, it isn&#8217;t as if I wanted to participate anyway.  But, I would like for more PR bloggers to reach out to many other PR educators around the world.  Think of how it will aid not just the students &#8211; but the future employers, too.</p>
<p>I do appreciate those that do reach out to the students.  You know that, don&#8217;t you?  <img src='http://www.auburnmedia.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Pepper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Pepper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education is overrated anyway, right? Well, I am not so sure that this was the right venue for educators to become involved with, nor if it will last beyond a month.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and with selfish intentions. This seems to be a bit of both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education is overrated anyway, right? Well, I am not so sure that this was the right venue for educators to become involved with, nor if it will last beyond a month.</p>
<p>The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and with selfish intentions. This seems to be a bit of both.</p>
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